Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for

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827 guests, ranked by how many people never want them back.

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   Eugen Rochko

   Rewind: Can Mastodon seize the moment from Twitter? · 2 episodes

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   Evan Smith

   Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to the US · 2 episodes

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   Gaurav Misra

   We are not ready for better deepfakes · Jul 2025

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   Gerrit Kazmaier

   Workday's new product head hopes he can make you like Workday · May 2025

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   Gil Duran

   Why tech billionaires want a ‘corporate dictatorship’ · Jul 2025

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   Glenn Fogel

   Booking CEO Glenn Fogel wants you to take out your travel frustrations on AI chatbots · Aug 2024

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   Golnar Khosrowshahi

   AI is on a collision course with the music industry. Reservoir's Golnar Khosrowshahi thinks there’s a way through it · Oct 2023

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   Greg Peters

   Netflix co-CEO Greg Peters on the streamer's shifting culture and where ads, AI, and games fit in · Jun 2024

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   Hank Green

   Hank Green lets loose on YouTube, billionaires, and algorithms · 2 episodes

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    Hanneke Faber

    Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber wants your next mouse to last forever · Jul 2024

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    Hayden Field

    OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner · 10 episodes

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    Heidy Khlaaf

    How AI safety took a backseat to military money · Sep 2025

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    Ivan Zhao

    Notion's CEO wants you to demand better from your tools · Aug 2025

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    Jameel Jaffer

    Can we regulate social media without breaking the First Amendment? · 2 episodes

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    Jason Citron

    Discord CEO Jason Citron makes the case for a smaller, more private internet · Apr 2024

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    Jason Schreier

    The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard · Oct 2024

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    Jay Graber

    Rewind: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber on the future of federated social media · 2 episodes

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    Jeremy Andrus

    How arson led to a culture reboot at Traeger, with CEO Jeremy Andrus · Jul 2022

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    Jeremy Wacksman

    Zillow's CEO on growth during a housing crisis · Mar 2026

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    Jim Rowan

    Volvo CEO Jim Rowan thinks dropping CarPlay is a mistake · Nov 2023

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    Joanna Stern

    Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them · 2 episodes

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    Jonathan Kanter

    The case for breaking up Google has never been stronger · 3 episodes

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    Josh Miller

    Arc creator Josh Miller on why you need a better browser than Chrome · Sep 2024

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    Justin McLeod

    Hinge CEO Justin McLeod says dating AI chatbots is 'playing with fire' · Jun 2025

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    Kakul Srivastava

    Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava on why push-button AI is “insulting” to musicians · Mar 2025

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    Kevin Scott

    Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI can save the web, not destroy it · 3 episodes

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    Lawrence Lessig

    Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig on why AI and social media are causing a free speech crisis for the internet · Oct 2023

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    Lila Snyder

    Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio · 2 episodes

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    Lindsey Lee Lugrin

    How F*ck You Pay Me is empowering creators · Sep 2021

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    Liz Lopatto

    Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing · 4 episodes

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    Mark Bergen

    Everyone knows what YouTube is. Few know how it really works. · Sep 2022

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    Matt Garman

    Why CEO Matt Garman is willing to bet AWS on AI · Jan 2025

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    Matt Mullenweg

    Why Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg went to war over WordPress · 4 episodes

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    Matthew Ball

    What happened to the metaverse? · 2 episodes

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    Mike Krieger

    Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype · Sep 2024

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    Mike Masnick

    Anthropic doesn't trust the Pentagon, and neither should you · Mar 2026

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    Mitchell Baker

    Erase browser history: can AI reset the browser battle? · Feb 2023

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    Neal Arthur

    Advertising is everywhere. Wieden+Kennedy CEO Neal Arthur explains how it works · Aug 2022

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    Neal Mohan

    YouTube's Chief Product Officer Neal Mohan on the algorithm, monetization, and future for creators · Aug 2021

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    Nicholas Thompson

    Why The Atlantic signed a deal with OpenAI · Jul 2024

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