The Rest Is Politics: Leading

The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

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Every guest on The Rest Is Politics: Leading

178 guests, ranked by how many people never want them back.

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   Gareth Southgate

   162. Gareth Southgate: Patriotism, Leadership, and How To Inspire Young Men · Nov 2025

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   Gary Lineker

   11: Gary Lineker: Politics, football and the BBC · Mar 2023

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   Gordon Brown

   207. Gordon Brown: How to Fix a Fracturing World · Sep 2026

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   Jacinda Ardern

   137. Jacinda Ardern: Why I Stepped Down as Prime Minister of New Zealand · Jun 2025

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   James Graham

   163. Prison Reform, Masculinity, and Restorative Justice (James Graham and Jacob Dunne) · Nov 2025

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   John Major

   24: John Major: The Gulf War, Black Wednesday, and Populism (Part 2) · 2 episodes

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   Michael Heseltine

   1: Michael Heseltine: From Thatcher to Sunak · Jan 2023

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   Michael Johnson

   5: Michael Johnson: Politics, protest, and sport · Feb 2023

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   Minette Batters

   40. Minette Batters: The Most Powerful Farmer in Britain · Oct 2023

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    Nancy Pelosi

    72. Nancy Pelosi: From JFK's inauguration to fighting Donald Trump · May 2024

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    Neil Kinnock

    172. Neil Kinnock: Trump, Thatcher, and Why Labour Lost In 1992 (Part 2) · 2 episodes

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    Nick Clegg

    87. Nick Clegg: Biden, Brexit, and kicking Trump off Facebook (Part 2) · 2 episodes

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    Nicola Sturgeon

    150. Nicola Sturgeon: What Really Happened In The Scottish Referendum (Part 2) · 2 episodes

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    Paul Nurse

    28: Paul Nurse: The power of genetics, battling politicians, and the fight against cancer · Jul 2023

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    Sadiq Khan

    70. Sadiq Khan: Faith, power, and the truth about Boris Johnson · Apr 2024

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    Theresa May

    39. Theresa May: Donald Trump, David Cameron, and ‘Brexit means Brexit’ (Part 2) · 2 episodes

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    Tim Peake

    51. Tim Peake: Will humans colonise Mars? · Dec 2023

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    Andy Burnham

    36. Andy Burnham and Andy Street: A Tale of Two Cities · Sep 2023

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    Gary Stevenson

    145. Gary Stevenson: Masculinity, Money, and the Myth of Meritocracy (Part 2) · 2 episodes

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    Gavin Newsom

    178. Gavin Newsom: The Next President Of The United States? · Mar 2026

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    Jack Clark

    191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark) · May 2026

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    Mark Carney

    44. Mark Carney: Bank of England, Trussonomics, and Brexit · Nov 2023

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    Michael Wolff

    124. The Man Who Got To Trump (Michael Wolff) · Mar 2025

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    Tommy Vietor

    119. Tommy Vietor: How Democrats can fight Trump · Feb 2025

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    Anthony Scaramucci

    205. Anthony Scaramucci: Why America Keeps Making the Same Mistakes · 2 episodes

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    Bill Browder

    173. The man Putin can’t silence: Bill Browder and sanctioning Russia · Feb 2026

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    Bill Clinton

    112. Bill Clinton: Putin, Palestine, and Trump · Dec 2024

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    Frank Luntz

    96. Frank Luntz: The World's Most Prolific Pollster · Sep 2024

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    Jim Himes

    133. Trump vs. Europe: Flattery, Pushback, and Powerplays (Congressman Jim Himes) · May 2025

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    Kate Raworth

    22: Kate Raworth: Doughnut economics and thriving in balance · Jun 2023

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    Mike Pompeo

    155. Mike Pompeo On Russia, Trump, and China · Sep 2025

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    Audrey Tang

    97. How to fight fake news and strengthen democracy (Audrey Tang) · Sep 2024

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    Gabriel Zucman

    197. The Billionaire Tax Debate (Gabriel Zucman) · Jul 2026

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    Yanis Varoufakis

    187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism · May 2026

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    Odd Arne Westad

    192. Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad) · Jun 2026

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    Sarah McBride

    182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · Mar 2026

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    Anna Wintour

    165. Anna Wintour: Culture, Influence, and the Power of Decisive Leadership · Dec 2025

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    Christiana Figueres

    49. Christiana Figueres: COP28, Costa Rica, and surviving the climate crisis · Dec 2023

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    Robert Malley

    176. How Close Are We To War With Iran? (Robert Malley) · Feb 2026

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    David Petraeus

    107. General David Petraeus: Iraq, Afghanistan, and the US military's role in the world · Nov 2024

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